Team Focus: How Enrique's Barca Treble Hopefuls Compare to Pep's Strongest Sides
“Barca open a new chapter,” wrote AS’ Alfredo Relaño in his editorial on Sunday morning, after Barcelona had beaten Athletic Bilbao 3-1 in the previous night’s Copa del Rey final, sealing the sixth Liga and Copa double in the Catalan club’s history.
Relaño continued by saying that the current Luis Enrique coached side, with Lionel Messi as an all-controlling right-sided playmaker, was a much different team to the blaugrana outfit from a few years back, built around midfield string-puller Xavi Hernandez.
“It’s not tiqui-taca anymore,” he wrote. “Xavi is leaving and he’ll never play alongside Iniesta again. This Barça side play in a different way, without over elaborating build-up play, without eliminating their opponent from the contest, but are capable of winning in style. Messi is sitting deeper and is instrumental in creating play and finishing other moves. In general everything they do is done in a more dynamic manner and with a degree of unpredictability. I liked the way the former team played, but I like this style too. Another great Barca team.”
The previous great Barca team being referred to is of course the side built by Pep Guardiola, which did win the treble in his first season in charge [2008/09], and then for many came close to football perfection two years later when they again won the La Liga and Champions League double.
That 2011 team had Xavi holding the baton in midfield as they were controlling games through holding the ball, and eventually suffocated teams through possession. By that stage Messi had become firmly established as a 'false nine', with the team's other attackers – usually Pedro Rodriguez and David Villa – in very secondary roles.
Guardiola's successors Tito Vilanova and Gerardo 'Tata' Martino both tweaked this 'tiki-taka' model, but without making any serious break from Guardiola’s structures, leading to last season when the side went without any silverware for the first time since the pre-Pep era.
The argument from Relaño and many other commentators is that Luis Enrique, while always claiming to be continuing the club’s typical style, has done more than just evolve Guardiola’s model. Despite plenty of grumblings from the blaugrana traditionalists, things have turned around spectacularly - with a front three of Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez all in amazing form. Barca are now heading into Saturday's Champions League final against Juventus looking to complete what would be only the club’s second ever treble of La Liga, the Champions League and the Copa del Rey.
There is a feeling that should the treble be won again, it will be done in a very different way. It’s not just outsiders who think this way, as centre-back Pique, a mainstay in defence for both Guardiola and Luis Enrique, happily told a press conference last month.
“We’re a more mature team, who know better how to take on adverse situations,” Pique said. “We’ve evolved our style of play, we don’t have so much possession, and it now does not seem as if it is a handball game. We’re more direct, and take advantage of the forwards we have. We’re also more solid in defence.”
Pique’s views echo those of many observers who see the current Barca team being much more ‘vertical’ and direct, eschewing too many sideways balls in midfield, and getting the ball forward quickly so that their superstar front three can wreak havoc before defences have time to get set.
But do the stats back up this impression? It seems not really...
During the 2014/15 La Liga season Luis Enrique’s team had 69.7% possession of the ball, and an 88.2% pass completion ratio. Back in 2010/11, Guardiola’s team had 67.5% possession, with an 89.6% pass completion ratio. So the current team actually have a slightly higher possession percentage per game, and only a marginally lower pass completion ratio. In terms of the amount of time Barca have the ball, and how well they keep it, there is no real difference between the teams.
We can also look at the type of goals the teams have scored. In 2014/15 Barca scored 108 goals in total in La Liga - 80 from open play, six from counter-attacks and 16 from set-pieces. This compares to 2010/11, when they scored 94 La Liga goals in total - 71 open play, nine on the counter and 9 from set-pieces.
Again the statistics do not really back up the impression of a break with the past - with Pep’s side actually scoring three more counter-attack goals that year than Luis Enrique’s have managed this term. There is a big difference in set-piece goals however, with the current coaching staff’s training ground work certainly paying off there [16-9]. That definitely shows the pragmatism of ‘Lucho’, but is not a sign of a big change in philosophy on the ball.
Another statistic to look at is the type of passes made by each team. Guardiola’s 2010/11 Barca made 55 long balls per game, compared to 694 short passes. Luis Enrique’s 2014/15 side make 53 long passs per game, compared to 628 shorter balls. This suggests the current side are more likely to play the ball long, but not by too much. For each long pass four years ago, 12.6 short passes were played. That ratio this year is 11.8. So there is now slightly less slow build-up in midfield, but not a huge amount.
Other metrics which you might think can be used to show the current Barca side are more direct than their tiki-taka predecessors are also less than conclusive. The total shots is just slightly higher this year [up from 15.8 to 16.4]. Total dribbles is similar, with the 2014/15 side making marginally more [up from 26.1 to 25.3]. The number of key passes per 90 minutes is the exact same, at 14.2.
So the numbers show that despite the talk of a tactical revolution, Barca are still sticking pretty closely to their traditional style. This year’s team still hit by far more short passes than any other team in La Liga [Madrid second with 477, a full 151 less]. Meanwhile, they also still hit fewer long balls than any of the other 19 sides [again Madrid next with 56, three more than Barca].
This is not to stay that everyone is wrong - that Relaño, Pique and everyone else have been feeding a narrative that does not at all fit with the facts. It could be though that a persistent memory of Pep’s team as boring, just keeping the ball forever without making any chances, has been conditioned by what happened in a few high-profile games, and does not accurately reflect what was happening week-in, week-out during the season.
2014/15 Barca have been incredibly clinical in key moments - especially against the biggest sides, such as in La Liga against Madrid and Atletico, and in the Champions League versus Manchester City and Bayern Munich. One of Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez has often come up with a piece of genius to put their team in control.
For the rest of the 90 minutes though their team have been passing the ball all around not that differently to before. Barca may have opened a new chapter this year, but Luis Enrique has definitely not thrown the old book out the window.
How does this year's Barcelona team stack up to the best of those under Pep Guardiola? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below
I also wanted to point out that 12 or 13 Champions League games for each manager is surely not enough to draw any conclusions from. In the 2010/11 season under Pep, Barca faced Panathinaikos, Rubin Kazan, Copenhagen, Arsenal, Shakhtar, Real Madrid and Man U. This season it's been Nicosia, PSG, Ajax, Man City, PSG (again), and Bayern. Most would say this season has been tougher for Barca in the Champions League. To a lesser extent the same comments apply to La Liga, one season is a bit smallish to draw conclusions from.
The Pep's Barca is something special in the football's heritage. The homegrown talent, players who rely on their brain instead of physical power and magic of the best trio in football. All this under the leadership of Carles Puyol, the greatest captain we ever had. They won it all. A few times. We really enjoyed. I will forever remember first time I saw Messi scoring a goal live. It was unreal. Magic. Comparing this side is fair enough, obviously. This Barca might be even better. Messi grew up in a perfect leader taking most of it on his back. He really helped Neymar to develop his play this year and that's what I admire in this team. Neymar has the best possible mentor. Messi obviously loves Barca and he proves it in so many ways. When you add Suarez, Neymar, Alba, great GKs, Masche and Pique, phenomenal Alves, Pedro and Xavi from the bench and great Sergio you get a wonderful team with great chemistry! This season was one for the ages. Visca Barça i visca Catalunya!
People don't realise the front 3 can only get better. This is their 1st season together. All 3 are young, at only 23,28 and 27 years old. The understanding and chemistry between them can only get better. Barca have the best defence in the world. Dani is 32 now, but he still has a year or 2 left in him. Pogba will probably replace Iniesta soon. Next season Barca will win another treble. World domination for the next couple of years.
This Barca team is one of the most incisive sides I've ever seen, and could possibly go down as the greatest front 3 in history of football given couple more seasons to solidify themselves. If Suarez wasn't banned from Copa this summer I'd reckon this year we could also get to see one of the greatest editions of Copa ever. Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia are all featuring amazing players coming into the competition.
@lolzzzzzzzz Uruguay have appealed for the ban to be lifted because they claim the decision may come as a result of alleged corruption. It should be uplifted imo only the fans lose out.
@Beastador Yeah I'm hoping they can overturn it but I doubt it happens in time. Also, I forgot to mention Chile has a fantastic side as well. That's a strong top 5 for a field of 12!
The obvious difference is MSN, the deadliest attacking trio ever with 120 goals this season, but also defensively this team is much better in defending set pieces, which has been a weakness of ours for years, but this year we have only conceded 3 or 4 goals from dead ball situations, which is a fantastic achievement.
@espana Yeah, I thought that BBC was going to be better but I was dead wrong... MSN > BBC and South America > Europe in terms of attacking talent
All this shows is how far football stats still have to go. Everyone and his mother can see that Barca have changed under Enrique, including professional footballers and managers at the highest level, even if the change is slight. Stats can't overturn that. The biggest difference is that they are now more reliant on the front three than ever, and they are better defensively. Also Messi on the right gives them a very different attacking style, as Relaño says. And by the way, there is no such rule that if a word ends in 's' that you can't add another 's' after the apostrophe, I don't know where journalists get this idea from. It should be "AS’s Alfredo Relaño".
There really isn't a huge difference between the two. Some of the actors have changed, and this is a huge element, especially Suarez who's hunger and selflessness are unparalled - but Rakitic and Neymar add other elements too. I think the main difference might be the approach. Rather than controlling the game from the onset, making intricate plays and building up the chances, this team goes for the jugular from the kick-off, high tempo, fluid direct attack. When the goals are in, they lay back, and control more. I think that's the main difference between the teams - this team can be ruthless and more direct, and it shows - they have scored 15 more goals in CL and La Liga than the 10/11 team. The trio itself has scored 20 goals more than the previous one. It's all perception of course - hard to compare teams 4 years apart. It would be interesting to see a comparison of times goals were scored.
This barca is far more normal than the previous. They aren't even now the best in Europe, Bayern are, with full squad. And also yupp's Bayern were better than this barca. The first guardiola experience, 08/09 were by far the best team since sacchi's Milan, and then nearby the 10/11 version. Actual Barcelona play a normal football, compared to others, they've got a very strong attack, although not better than henry eto'o Messi trio, the midfield without xavi and with a faded iniesta is no more the unbelievable power force of the past years, and the defence is absolutely normal. The keeper is average, alba is average, alves is good but fading, pique is a champion, and mascherano too, but he's not a CB, and so the duo is not well matched.
@Mattia Lol Bayern... where were they last year when they got their "full squad" got trashed by Madrid
@madridistagunner this is football darling anything can happen. It was bw two great team that wat happened hell even spain lost to switzerland b4 winning 2010 wc. Plz shut up ur proving ur self to be stupid. I like madrid alot but i think having fartboy like would be a stain real legacy.
@Mattia You must be from Egypt - De Nile region. A full strength Bayern is very good, but still doesn't stack up - Ribery and Robben are on the wrong side of 30, and might have added a couple of goals in the semis, but still don't think they'd get through. Messi Suarez and Neymar are better than Eto'o and Henry - great players, especially Henry, but let's face it, the goal record speaks for itself 120 vs. 101 - with Suarez missing the first 11 games, and no pre-season. Better check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
@Papichulo the goal record speaks for itself if u can read that number, the level has lowered down this edition of the cup, and even the level of the liga has. Suarez maybe is better than eto'o but in no way neymar is better than henry. Neymar is just another overrated oversponsored mediatic star. The rest of the team and the quality of the play is not at the height of 2011 or 2009. I am an aware follower of both Bayern and Barcelona, and a fit Bayern is far better than Barcelona. Barcelona is even at level with a fitted real.. Nothing special.
@Mattia Nonsense. Neymar will become the top scorer of Brazilian national squad by the age of 25. Do you realize what that means?
@blitz huh then robbie keane is on the verge of breaking gerd muller record by the time the euro 2016 is done he would be the highest scorer of intl goals after he will second to ferenc puskas as world leading goalscorer does this prove Robbie Keane is as good as Gerd Muller or Puskas? Neymar is good sir. But he is no legend or even great player. If he was in real madrid he would not be doing any better than bale. He has selfless suarez(who really is a great player can become a legend) and messi to support his arse. Just like the way brazil do. Not saying he is bad player. But sheesh wat u ppl make him out to be he is not that player.
@Ffaris I agree Neymar should be considered himself lucky for the kind of team-mates he has. But he still is a young yet excellent player. And as far as the "which trident is better" argument, Neymar 2015 is better than Henry 2009.
@blitz neymar is overrated, he scores only against weak teams, he doesn't resolve big matches. As we have seen with brazil
@Mattia So does he suffer of Cristiano Ronaldo syndrom?
@Mattia Sure... Neymar this season scored vs. Real Madrid, Atletico de Madrid, Sevilla, PSG, Bayern Munich (three times) and Juventus... only against weak teams, huh? ;-)
@Mattia Neymar is a fantastic player, especially with Brazil, and he's proven his worth during the World Cup. Henry was at the end of his career during his time at Barca, he wasn't a decisive player. Take any of MSN out and the attack just isn't as effective. And let's be real. Real Madrid are a fantastic team, so to be level with them is actually a compliment. RM would have beaten a fit Bayern easily.
@Mattia Neymar is not at the same level of Henry in his prime (not yet, anyway) but he's way better than Henry was in 2008/09. That's a fact, look not just at every possible stat, but also their respective contributions in key matches. The current trident is clearly better than the old one, with every member (even Messi) being better than their counterpart was in 2008/09. It's not just that MSN has outscored MEH by 20% (and thats A LOT) but they've done it with a weaker midfield behind them, and with Messi having to take over part of the old midfield's creative tasks. That's how good MSN is.
@Mattia jez ppl why so much hate. He just giving his opinon. Although the word he used were kinda harsh this is extremely good barca side as proven by the treble but seriously he is not wrong in pointing out that if the two sides are being compared pep barca edges out. Not saying it is superior just saying it edges out which true by the way. Is rakatic better than prime xavi, or this iniesta vs the prime iniesta, pique or mascherano better than puyol? U answer dat u decide.
@Ffaris He was wrong on two counts. First, this Barça has clearly shown they are the best team in Europe, beating the champions of ALL the top 5 leagues in the process (they didn't play vs Atletico in UCL, but beat them FOUR TIMES between La Liga and CdR). Second, Lucho's trident (Messi, Suarez & Neymar) is better than Pep's trident (Messi, Eto'o & Henry). It's not just MSN has hugely outscored both MEH & MVP, but they've done it with a weaker midfield behind them. Because, just like Mattia rightly pointed out, Pep's midfield with Xavi and Iniesta in their prime was way stronger than the current midfield. Yet, the MSN has more than made up for that midfield weakness, increasing the team's total goal output even if the rest of the team has decreased their goals and assist contribution. So much so, that part of the trident (mostly Messi) has taken over some of the old midfield's creative tasks... and still the goals keep flowing more than ever = MSN is the best trident ever.