@Real_Madrid Why were the cramps and injuries feigned ? They were so bad, that Pavlovic had to be carried outside, so that Joselu could score and Tuchel had to sub ALL of his 4 offensive players.
And how did Joselu " cure " them. There are bad losers but you are certainly a very bad winner ...
@neumi17 Even though i backed Real , i felt a little sorry that Bayerns 2nd goal to make it 2-2 was disallowed.Noussair Mazraoui goal should have stood.Apparently the 'officials' apologised after the game to Tuchel.
What did I tell you? Real had to win alonside a strong show from Munich. Bayern are not as tough as some expect it to be. Kane is a ever high scores, this time even breaking records - but he also does'nt bring in trophies. Just look at Tottenham, England and even now the Bundesliga. The mustakes that teams is to overely on Kane
i think this was more of a bayern throw than people are letting on, and its ridiculous how often madrid elicit these mistakes from their opponents in this competition. almost every single season where they actually have a half decent chance to win. this felt even more scripted than 21/22 qf & semis. neuer was otherwise perfect but to me he seemed complacent when vini's shot came in; he thought he had it and arched his arms almost out of instinct rather than actually look how the ball is moving. maybe madrid is really that intimidating making everyone extra nervous! the goal after that was good (again, i wonder why bayern couldnt defend this after an overall solid performance) but we have to admit it probably wouldve been over if not for the first goal. for once, madrid were actually better in this match but neither team was very powerful in attack. sloppy passes esp final balls from bayern, madrid more precise but still below their usual standard. good neutralizing formation from real.
@Sputnik well, yes, they were not the strongest, but they were 1-0 up until minute 87 and the equalizer came from a gk mistake. tuchel is... part of the team... so to speak.
@Icarax They managed to score only because Gnabry got injured. Alphonso Davies playing left midfield was an element of surprise. It's not clear whether Gnabry would have scored from that position. Ancelotti wasn't prepared for Davies, but he adapted very well to Bayern man-marking Vinicius by switching the attackers' positions mid-game. As I've already mentioned in another comment, Tuchel definitely wasn't prepared for Joselu and so on.
Tuchel was ready for Vini and Rodrygo, his game plan for the first 75 minutes or so was really good. BUT 1) he made the mistake of bringing on defenders for attackers and 2) he wasn't ready for Joselu. The latter was Ancelotti's trump card. That was a King's gambit, if ever I saw one.
I have never thought I would live to see two German teams - Bayern and Dortmund - play Italian catenaccio in the semifinals. I really think the end of World is near! LOL
@Zoltan There is nothing wrong with defensive football as long as teams still try to score. Catenaccio was an absolute park the bus tactic with 0 creativity. Fluid counter attacking football can be still entertaining in it's own way. Both Bayern and Dortmund played this with varying success over the 2 matches, and for instance you can't deny that the 1st leg of this fixture was very entertaining despite this, or that Bayern's goal today was an absolute beauty. They had a few of those nice 1-2 touch build up plays outside the goal as well, just the final pass wasn't really there most of the times or there was a clutch interception (Kroos 1st half).
@neumi17 Stop blaming Tuchel for everything, you idiot Bayern fans! He is a top 3 coach you've ever had only after Ancelotti and Guardiola. Your sh*t club does not deserve a coach like Tuchel!
@neumi17 Something-something Antonio Pintus. The guy is a legend in his field, and his team's always have insane fitness levels. Heck he was the only person to make Lukaku look like an elite player over the last few years. Was quite sad when he left Inter after his brief spell.
@neumi17 I think even with Kane on the pitch, Real would have gone 2-1 up. The equalizer shifted the momentum insanely for Real. Bayern's best hope at that point would been to survive till extra time.
Hats off to Bayern, they went out fighting. A lapse in concentration and they are out. Still their game plan was great, and almost "pulled off a Dortmund".
@DanInter God help us from a Bayern - Dortmund final! You cannot be serious! I told you: Real Madrid is so much better today than Bayern, that they could rectify their own stupid game plan in the final minute with a simple change, and a no name forward who scored 2 goals in 3 minutes!
@Zoltan Betting wise RM in the final is obviously easier to predict, but as a neutral watcher, Bayern vs Dortmund would been an entertaining final IMO, also pretty hard to call.
@DanInter I doubt it. I don't like their new coach Terzic. After playing some offensive football with Dortmund at the beginning, he realised that he should be better off playing defensive football and ever since I hate him and and hate Dortmund too. Have you noticed for example that Terzic does not play Reuss any more? It's a miracle that he plays Sancho.
@Zoltan Reus is 34 (soon 35) years old, and haven't looked great for quite some time. Every now and then he has a good match, but he is not a consistent performer anymore (which is to be expected).
Carlo played it too safe with that midfield. Modric, camavinga cut out the unnecessary side passes, and the man, the myth legend joselu put them to the sword. Special shout out to vini who never stopped running at bayern and forced that mistake from a near perfect neuer. What a game. What a club. Hala madrid !
Carlo once again showed how the coach should react when things don't go according to plan A. Tuchel the other way around again when in the lead. Still Real was wasteful. In Final 2-0 or 3-1.
@koziol.mutant Tuchel made only 1 mistake throughout the whole game. His game plan was near perfect against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. But that one mistake cost him big time.
@koziol.mutant Carlo did great putting on a real center forward to switch it up. Did he coach Inzhagi at Milan in the 2000s? That sort of player Joselu was and it worked.
How on earth was that 2-1 not offsides? It wasn't even close. There are goals disqualified for millimeters nobody can see and then there is this garbage.
@tkr what? you wrote that like it was obvious, 5-meter offside, but I'm not quite sure. Rudiger definitely wasn't offside, can't tell that with 100% certainty about Joselu, but he probably wasn't too
@sailorripley After play had been stopped before the player scored? There's no way the goal will be given because the ref had interfered with play before the goal was scored.
@sailorripley Yeah struck me as odd. Rudiger made a mistake to stretch out his arm, which technically put Bayern onsides, but apparently the linesmen played "spirit of the game" and the VaR room must be full of Real Madrid fans so nobody wanted to review it.
@tkr Issue is both the linesman and the ref were hasty AF there. The goal clearly went in after play was stopped, but it should simply not be stopped in the age of VAR. Similarly how Real scored the winner, they waited with the flag for the end of the sequence. Should have been a case here as well. I think it was still slightly offside, but it's a very close call and should go to VAR.
@koziol.mutant actually it could have been on side given Rudiger stretched arm. Still, defence and gk stopped after flag went up, so chance for goal from that would be like 15%
Madrid swallowed their own medicine tonight ! They are the much better team and should be up by at least 3-0. But Bayern had ONE decent attack and leads 1-0. Totally undeserved but I like it.
@MEHJones Yeah, I was actually thinking about that while I was writing. It's 100% Tuchel's fault. How can you sub ALL your good players in offense and expect not to concede vs Real ?
Jesus Christ what a garbage game! It reminds me of Premiership games where teams are used to NOT playing during the first half. But when you are afraid too much of your opponent, this utter boredom will happen. Interestingly enough they are not afraid of the fans who should be outraged about this poor performance displayed. 20 years ago, when Real Madrid was still Real Madrid, fans would have waived already their white handkerchief in this disgrace. It's easy to do well as a goalkeeper when there are only 2 - 2 shots on goal in 45 minutes! All in all, the game is missing pace, unpredictability, precision, directness towards the goals, and pressure on the ball to force transitions. Most importantly, though, the game is missing courage and boldness from the part of the players: no one wants to take responsibility and everyone waits for the other to make it happen. I expected this stupid game plan last time as well, but since both teams were really poor defensively, it did not happen.
@MEHJones Come on! You know what I am talking about: it's the same stupid island where football was both invented and murdered! You know where I would date back football on your stupid island? When David Beckham was servicing two center forward phenomena: Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, while Scholes and Giggs were organising the game in the middle. Those were the last football moments on your stupid island. You could call it Premier League, Premiership, whatever other name, everyone who understands even a tiny bit of football knows that what you guys watch there every 3rd day (not even giving enough rest to the players) is not football any more, it is just garbage. You can spend all the money on the earth, and you still have no clue about football! LOL
@Schnma Come on! You know what I am talking about: it's the same stupid island where football was both invented and murdered! You know where I would date back football on your stupid island? When David Beckham was servicing two center forward phenomena: Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, while Scholes and Giggs were organising the game in the middle. Those were the last football moments on your stupid island. You could call it Premier League, Premiership, whatever other name, everyone who understands even a tiny bit of football knows that what you guys watch there every 3rd day (not even giving enough rest to the players) is not football any more, it is just garbage. You can spend all the money on the earth, and you still have no clue about football! LOL
@Schnma Come on! You know what I am talking about: it's the same stupid island where football was both invented and murdered! You know where I would date back football on your stupid island? When David Beckham was servicing two center forward phenomena: Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, while Scholes and Giggs were organising the game in the middle. Those were the last football moments on your stupid island. You could call it Premier League, Premiership, whatever other name, everyone who understands even a tiny bit of football knows that what you guys watch there every 3rd day (not even giving enough rest to the players) is not football any more, it is just garbage. You can spend all the money on the earth, and you still have no clue about football! LOL
Real have a very difficult time against aggressive wingers, If Bayern are to have a chance of winning this match, they will need to put respect for Real aside and go for it while staying focused and playing responsibly.
Referee(Szymon Marciniak), Apps(4), Fouls pg(26.50), Fouls/Tackles(0.82), Pen pg(0.25), Yel pg(6.00), Yel(24), Red (0), HomeWin%(50), AwayWin%(0), Draw%(50)
It promises to be a game with little time on the ball.
*in all time: This referee refereed 6 Real games, 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses. He refereed 3 Bayern games, 2 wins and 1 loss.
Real Madrid are an amazing team, but sometimes they can be c*nts. I hope tonight they keep their heads cool. The only criticism is that we tend to let the opponent play so aggressively that we forget we have a duty to win. Let's see if the Bernabéu delivers tonight as the 12th man.
i dont have much to add compared to last time, bayern had slightly more consistent attacking power but as always madrid gets the job done and i expect them not to drop their standards here either. as a non-betting man i just feel intrigued how it is possible that madrid are favorites (1.85 odds) yet the closest bet to that (draw) is less likely (3.90 odds) than a bayern win (3.75 odds).
34-year-old Joselu has scored 17 times despite the majority of his appearances coming from the Subs bench.
The Harry Kane 'trophy curse' strikes again.
Real Madrid Win then suddenly all my 'haters' vanish :)
Watching it again, it's immensely satisfying to see how all the cramps and feigned injuries by bayern players was instantly cured by Dr Joselu
@Real_Madrid Why were the cramps and injuries feigned ? They were so bad, that Pavlovic had to be carried outside, so that Joselu could score and Tuchel had to sub ALL of his 4 offensive players. And how did Joselu " cure " them. There are bad losers but you are certainly a very bad winner ...
@neumi17 Even though i backed Real , i felt a little sorry that Bayerns 2nd goal to make it 2-2 was disallowed.Noussair Mazraoui goal should have stood.Apparently the 'officials' apologised after the game to Tuchel.
@Marbella Sorry i meant Matthijs de Ligt goal was disallowed.
@Real_Madrid It's very satisfying indeed. They thought they had won but Joselu had other ideas.
vini should be in all those conversations, not jude. awesome performance!
@reelide How Jude is topping the balloon d'or race is beyond me
Taking Kane off really seems like a dumb move.
@MEHJones Tuchel said Kane was injured.
What did I tell you? Real had to win alonside a strong show from Munich. Bayern are not as tough as some expect it to be. Kane is a ever high scores, this time even breaking records - but he also does'nt bring in trophies. Just look at Tottenham, England and even now the Bundesliga. The mustakes that teams is to overely on Kane
i think this was more of a bayern throw than people are letting on, and its ridiculous how often madrid elicit these mistakes from their opponents in this competition. almost every single season where they actually have a half decent chance to win. this felt even more scripted than 21/22 qf & semis. neuer was otherwise perfect but to me he seemed complacent when vini's shot came in; he thought he had it and arched his arms almost out of instinct rather than actually look how the ball is moving. maybe madrid is really that intimidating making everyone extra nervous! the goal after that was good (again, i wonder why bayern couldnt defend this after an overall solid performance) but we have to admit it probably wouldve been over if not for the first goal. for once, madrid were actually better in this match but neither team was very powerful in attack. sloppy passes esp final balls from bayern, madrid more precise but still below their usual standard. good neutralizing formation from real.
@Icarax Yesterday's game was a PSG throw. Bayern are just extremely over-rated. They stood a chance in the tie only because of Tuchel.
@Sputnik well, yes, they were not the strongest, but they were 1-0 up until minute 87 and the equalizer came from a gk mistake. tuchel is... part of the team... so to speak.
@Icarax They managed to score only because Gnabry got injured. Alphonso Davies playing left midfield was an element of surprise. It's not clear whether Gnabry would have scored from that position. Ancelotti wasn't prepared for Davies, but he adapted very well to Bayern man-marking Vinicius by switching the attackers' positions mid-game. As I've already mentioned in another comment, Tuchel definitely wasn't prepared for Joselu and so on.
Tuchel was ready for Vini and Rodrygo, his game plan for the first 75 minutes or so was really good. BUT 1) he made the mistake of bringing on defenders for attackers and 2) he wasn't ready for Joselu. The latter was Ancelotti's trump card. That was a King's gambit, if ever I saw one.
I have never thought I would live to see two German teams - Bayern and Dortmund - play Italian catenaccio in the semifinals. I really think the end of World is near! LOL
@Zoltan There is nothing wrong with defensive football as long as teams still try to score. Catenaccio was an absolute park the bus tactic with 0 creativity. Fluid counter attacking football can be still entertaining in it's own way. Both Bayern and Dortmund played this with varying success over the 2 matches, and for instance you can't deny that the 1st leg of this fixture was very entertaining despite this, or that Bayern's goal today was an absolute beauty. They had a few of those nice 1-2 touch build up plays outside the goal as well, just the final pass wasn't really there most of the times or there was a clutch interception (Kroos 1st half).
Tuchel was an idiot ! How can he substitute ALL of his offense ? Did he seriously think Real can't score anymore ?
@neumi17 Stop blaming Tuchel for everything, you idiot Bayern fans! He is a top 3 coach you've ever had only after Ancelotti and Guardiola. Your sh*t club does not deserve a coach like Tuchel!
@neumi17 even Neuer was so confused with that. He could hold one substitute till added time and then release his lovely pokemon player
@neumi17 the best is to win 1-0 and bunker, lol
@neumi17 Bayerns offense was out of power. Musiala and Sane were completely done.
@Schnma Sané was already " done " in the first minute of the game.
@Schnma After 80 minutes the entire offense out of power, why ? Vinicius sure was still on fire after 90 minutes
@neumi17 Something-something Antonio Pintus. The guy is a legend in his field, and his team's always have insane fitness levels. Heck he was the only person to make Lukaku look like an elite player over the last few years. Was quite sad when he left Inter after his brief spell.
@neumi17 I‘m not the coach. Just giving my opinion on what i saw. Tuchel also mentioned that all 4 offensive players were done.
@Schnma I know but it's not normal that all your offensive players are " done " after just 80 minutes.
@neumi17 I think even with Kane on the pitch, Real would have gone 2-1 up. The equalizer shifted the momentum insanely for Real. Bayern's best hope at that point would been to survive till extra time.
@DanInter With that subbed offence Bayern wouldn't have survived 120 minutes anyway.
The most important unwritten rule in football - never score first against Real Madrid!!! :D
Joselu was such a clutch pickup from Madrid in the off season
Hats off to Bayern, they went out fighting. A lapse in concentration and they are out. Still their game plan was great, and almost "pulled off a Dortmund".
@DanInter God help us from a Bayern - Dortmund final! You cannot be serious! I told you: Real Madrid is so much better today than Bayern, that they could rectify their own stupid game plan in the final minute with a simple change, and a no name forward who scored 2 goals in 3 minutes!
@Zoltan Betting wise RM in the final is obviously easier to predict, but as a neutral watcher, Bayern vs Dortmund would been an entertaining final IMO, also pretty hard to call.
@DanInter I doubt it. I don't like their new coach Terzic. After playing some offensive football with Dortmund at the beginning, he realised that he should be better off playing defensive football and ever since I hate him and and hate Dortmund too. Have you noticed for example that Terzic does not play Reuss any more? It's a miracle that he plays Sancho.
@Zoltan Reus is 34 (soon 35) years old, and haven't looked great for quite some time. Every now and then he has a good match, but he is not a consistent performer anymore (which is to be expected).
Carlo played it too safe with that midfield. Modric, camavinga cut out the unnecessary side passes, and the man, the myth legend joselu put them to the sword. Special shout out to vini who never stopped running at bayern and forced that mistake from a near perfect neuer. What a game. What a club. Hala madrid !
Carlo once again showed how the coach should react when things don't go according to plan A. Tuchel the other way around again when in the lead. Still Real was wasteful. In Final 2-0 or 3-1.
@koziol.mutant Tuchel made only 1 mistake throughout the whole game. His game plan was near perfect against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. But that one mistake cost him big time.
@koziol.mutant Carlo did great putting on a real center forward to switch it up. Did he coach Inzhagi at Milan in the 2000s? That sort of player Joselu was and it worked.
@tkr well written
How on earth was that 2-1 not offsides? It wasn't even close. There are goals disqualified for millimeters nobody can see and then there is this garbage.
@tkr what? you wrote that like it was obvious, 5-meter offside, but I'm not quite sure. Rudiger definitely wasn't offside, can't tell that with 100% certainty about Joselu, but he probably wasn't too
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@tkr It wasn't. But the Bayern goal should have been given. I think...
@sailorripley After play had been stopped before the player scored? There's no way the goal will be given because the ref had interfered with play before the goal was scored.
@sailorripley Yeah struck me as odd. Rudiger made a mistake to stretch out his arm, which technically put Bayern onsides, but apparently the linesmen played "spirit of the game" and the VaR room must be full of Real Madrid fans so nobody wanted to review it.
@tkr A player's arm cannot play an opposition player onside. The referee made the right call
@tkr Issue is both the linesman and the ref were hasty AF there. The goal clearly went in after play was stopped, but it should simply not be stopped in the age of VAR. Similarly how Real scored the winner, they waited with the flag for the end of the sequence. Should have been a case here as well. I think it was still slightly offside, but it's a very close call and should go to VAR.
@sailorripley no, was just off side
@koziol.mutant actually it could have been on side given Rudiger stretched arm. Still, defence and gk stopped after flag went up, so chance for goal from that would be like 15%
@tkr it was no offside, VAR top class
Madrid swallowed their own medicine tonight ! They are the much better team and should be up by at least 3-0. But Bayern had ONE decent attack and leads 1-0. Totally undeserved but I like it.
@neumi17 spoke too soon����
@neumi17 You should have waited. :/
@MEHJones Yeah, I was actually thinking about that while I was writing. It's 100% Tuchel's fault. How can you sub ALL your good players in offense and expect not to concede vs Real ?
@neumi17 Baffling. Especially against that club.
Jesus Christ what a garbage game! It reminds me of Premiership games where teams are used to NOT playing during the first half. But when you are afraid too much of your opponent, this utter boredom will happen. Interestingly enough they are not afraid of the fans who should be outraged about this poor performance displayed. 20 years ago, when Real Madrid was still Real Madrid, fans would have waived already their white handkerchief in this disgrace. It's easy to do well as a goalkeeper when there are only 2 - 2 shots on goal in 45 minutes! All in all, the game is missing pace, unpredictability, precision, directness towards the goals, and pressure on the ball to force transitions. Most importantly, though, the game is missing courage and boldness from the part of the players: no one wants to take responsibility and everyone waits for the other to make it happen. I expected this stupid game plan last time as well, but since both teams were really poor defensively, it did not happen.
@Zoltan Be honest. How many Scottish Premiership games have you actually watched?
@MEHJones Come on! You know what I am talking about: it's the same stupid island where football was both invented and murdered! You know where I would date back football on your stupid island? When David Beckham was servicing two center forward phenomena: Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, while Scholes and Giggs were organising the game in the middle. Those were the last football moments on your stupid island. You could call it Premier League, Premiership, whatever other name, everyone who understands even a tiny bit of football knows that what you guys watch there every 3rd day (not even giving enough rest to the players) is not football any more, it is just garbage. You can spend all the money on the earth, and you still have no clue about football! LOL
@Zoltan Haha nice one. This one is many levels above premiership.
@Schnma Come on! You know what I am talking about: it's the same stupid island where football was both invented and murdered! You know where I would date back football on your stupid island? When David Beckham was servicing two center forward phenomena: Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, while Scholes and Giggs were organising the game in the middle. Those were the last football moments on your stupid island. You could call it Premier League, Premiership, whatever other name, everyone who understands even a tiny bit of football knows that what you guys watch there every 3rd day (not even giving enough rest to the players) is not football any more, it is just garbage. You can spend all the money on the earth, and you still have no clue about football! LOL
@Schnma Come on! You know what I am talking about: it's the same stupid island where football was both invented and murdered! You know where I would date back football on your stupid island? When David Beckham was servicing two center forward phenomena: Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, while Scholes and Giggs were organising the game in the middle. Those were the last football moments on your stupid island. You could call it Premier League, Premiership, whatever other name, everyone who understands even a tiny bit of football knows that what you guys watch there every 3rd day (not even giving enough rest to the players) is not football any more, it is just garbage. You can spend all the money on the earth, and you still have no clue about football! LOL
The tactical battle is 10 levels above yesterday's bullsh*t.
BTTS, OV3.5, Real to win.
3-2 Bayern Kane and Sane too score
Real Madrid 1-3 Bayern
Harry Kane +160 / JR +160 To Score Anytime
Real have a very difficult time against aggressive wingers, If Bayern are to have a chance of winning this match, they will need to put respect for Real aside and go for it while staying focused and playing responsibly.
Referee(Szymon Marciniak), Apps(4), Fouls pg(26.50), Fouls/Tackles(0.82), Pen pg(0.25), Yel pg(6.00), Yel(24), Red (0), HomeWin%(50), AwayWin%(0), Draw%(50) It promises to be a game with little time on the ball. *in all time: This referee refereed 6 Real games, 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses. He refereed 3 Bayern games, 2 wins and 1 loss.
-Based on the database available on the website
2-4 Correct Score
Should be closer, 1-1 or 2-1 in FT, anyway Real to progress.
Real Madrid 3-1.Good luck everyone i will be at the game. :)
@Marbella Bayern to advance? German Final to be destined? :)
@Marbella Enjoy
3-0/3-1/3-2 real wil win or draw100%
Real Madrid are an amazing team, but sometimes they can be c*nts. I hope tonight they keep their heads cool. The only criticism is that we tend to let the opponent play so aggressively that we forget we have a duty to win. Let's see if the Bernabéu delivers tonight as the 12th man.
Real to win, Real to win + BTTS, OVER 3.5.
VAMOS
i dont have much to add compared to last time, bayern had slightly more consistent attacking power but as always madrid gets the job done and i expect them not to drop their standards here either. as a non-betting man i just feel intrigued how it is possible that madrid are favorites (1.85 odds) yet the closest bet to that (draw) is less likely (3.90 odds) than a bayern win (3.75 odds).
@Icarax in my experience gambling draw is always has the best odds/value
1-1 or 2-2 Vinicius and Kane sored anytime
Read Madrid to be awarded a penalty.
Extra time and maybe penalties.
I don't think real win easily
Bayern win
Final : Bayern vs Dortmund ... Imagine | or Real vs PSG (mbappe will play for real and destroy psg dream to win ucl)
Real Madrid Win.
Madrid should get the job done at home.
1-0 ��
Real should be up by 2 if they wont get smart and just play their style.
both teams to score in both halves